Episode 275: The Beginning of the End

Jason and Kevin discuss Usain Bolt’s return to the track, Genzebe Dibaba’s decision to double, David Rudisha’s struggles with Nijel Amos and Andre De Grasse’s lane eight magic.
The guys also chat about Boston’s failed Olympic bid, a two-mile race straight uphill, running at Shawshank and Ashton Eaton’s plan to stay cool.
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2 responses to “Episode 275: The Beginning of the End

  1. Owen Schmitt

    @davewottlehat on twitter, Owen Schmitt here,

    I’m from boston, and NO ONE I’ve talked to was for the olympic games in boston. Boston can barely handle rush hour, we can’t handle hundreds of thousands of new people.
    I really want to see an Olympics one day, but it would be one of the worst things to happen to the City of Boston.

    Also, in order to break Farah, you’re gonna need a fast race, with alternating surges. It would take Kenya or Ethiopia working as a team to take down Farah.

    If it was the Ehiopian team, Kejelcha could go early and hurt farah at around 600 to go, and then someone could hang back and take farah in the final 200.

    I think I’m just trying to envisioning a way for Farah to lose, which is pretty hard to do.

  2. Gentlemen, enjoyed the show this week. A listener wondered which world class track athletes would do well in a Tour De France like vertical race. We have such a course in the Colorado Springs area. The Manitou Incline is a former tram line that ascends 2000 ft. elevation in less than one mile reaching grades of 68 percent. It’s basically a real Stairmaster made up of railroad ties and ascending straight up a mountain at the foot of Pike’s Peak. It’s incredibly popular with world class athletes passing through or training at the Olympic Center or with weekend warriors (of whom several have died of heart attacks etc.) Your discussion of what type of runner would do well in such an event had me intrigued. Although there are no official records or times and times largely self reported I have some insights on body types that succeed in such an avent. The reported record is by triathlete Mark Fretta in 16:42. He was a resident at the Olympic Training Center and his running times are hard to nail down although he was a internationally competitive Triathlete. As most Triathletes he looks “big” . Built in the chest and arms and muscular legs. However in 2014 Fretta was sanctioned for 4 years for doping so his time is now suspect. Behind him on time is Apollo Ohno of Olympic speed skating fame who reported a time of 17:45. Once again tree trunks for legs. In third is trail running legend Matt Carpenter (multiple time winner of the Pike’s Peak Marathon and Leadville 100 record holder with a time of 18:31. Unlike the others Matt is a wraith, a human matchstick. With the second highest vO2Max ever reported Matt’s time looks the most convincing. As for some personal insight, I was once pushed to a 19:57 by Carpenter in a now extinct handycap event called the Incline Club Thursday Challenge. I was an average runner in College with PRs of 3:49 (1500), 14:36 (5k) 30:15 (10k). However I have tree trunks for legs, the ultimate non-Kenyan. Which had me wondering again, what body type is best in this type of straight up the mountain race? In International trail races Max King has had success against the Africans (and of course the best Kenyans are running Marathons and track) but still, does intense vertical running favor muscular body types over skinny efficient body types. Kenya has attempted to race International XC skiing events with disastrous results. Perhaps there are strength specific events where the efficient golf ball sized calves of the Kenyans defer to the softball sized but poweful calves of the North Africans, Arabs, and Europeans? If my hypothesis is true, unlike cycling where tiny and lithe carries the day, you are better off picking an El Guerroj or a Makhloufi over a Kiprop. Your thoughts?